Probably the most disturbing aspect of the multifarious effects of Fox News' right-wing propaganda machine and its Tea Party offspring is the way it has utterly taken over the lives of so many senior citizens, who lap up every word as the gospel truth and have become increasingly radicalized by talking heads like Glenn Beck.
Even as they project their own intentions onto the likes of the unions, the Fox acolytes and the Tea Partiers have effectively become a brownshirt corps of mean-spirited, vicious thugs. It's deeply disturbing to watch people in our parents' generation viciously attacking liberals with increasing venom and violence.
The latest example took place last weekend in the quiet little retirement town of Roseburg, Oregon. It's a pretty little burg on the I-5 corridor in western Oregon that is mostly populated with senior citizens of various stripes. Via Carla at Blue Oregon, we happened upon this story in the local paper:
A small political gathering of about 18 liberal thinkers at River Forks Park Sunday afternoon erupted in conflict when about 35 members of the conservative tea party intruded upon the meeting, waving flags and holding signs accusing the rival group of being communists, Marxists and socialists.
The liberal group — organized by MoveOn.org — decided to leave the park and move its potluck to a nearby home. Members of the conservative group followed, parking at the entrance of a private lane leading to the home to continue their protest.
Roseburg Democrats Dean and Sara Byers said Monday they told tea party members who followed that they were not welcome to drive down the lane to their home.
The Byerses said they got out of their car to stop vehicles from entering the driveway and one tea party member almost ran them over.
Sara Byers said she was so shaken she called 911. She said a Douglas County deputy called about an hour and a half later and said he had been unable to respond because of other incidents. Byers said she was still considering filing a criminal complaint against members of the tea party for harassment.
A leader of the tea party group, Rich Raynor of Roseburg, disputed the liberal group's version of events.
“They are liars,” said Raynor, director of Douglas County Americans for Prosperity. “That is what communists do.”
The latter confrontations were not videotaped, but the Tea Partiers themselves proudly posted the video of their invasion of the MoveOn picnic. Moreover, it clearly documents how they effectively broke it up -- by threatening the attendees with intimidating speech and making it clear they wanted the group to clear out. What it doesn't show, of course, is that they followed these folks to someone's private home and tried to invade the gathering on private property as well.
Here's the script the proud authors of the video provided:
Self professed communist Van Jones teams up with MoveOn.org to promote the American Dream Project, aka I want what you have worked for. Promoted here by the Douglas County Democratic Central Committee members. Challenged by Americans who love freedom!
I have an idea. Let's end class warfare. If you want more, get up earlier and work harder. It works wonders for your self-respect.
We had to disable comments. They were vile, vulgar, threatening...typical Chicago thuggery stuff.
One thing that's clear from both the script and from the video is that what has the Tea Partiers especially exercised about MoveOn is the fact that Van Jones is now working with them to promote his Rebuild the Dream project. The Tea Partiers kept repeating "Van Jones!" "Van Jones!" almost mantra-like, and then calling MoveOn a bunch of "communists."
This is the New McCartyhyism at work, thanks in no small part to the effective work of Glenn Beck during his misbegotten tenure at Fox News -- the apotheosis of which was his successful attacks on Van Jones.
We discussed this at length with Jones himself recently. And while he's right that we can't let these kinds of smears deflect or distract us from what we're trying to achieve, there's no doubt he also understands that they need to be knocked down fiercely and effectively.
And the claim that Van Jones is a Communist is simply a baldfaced lie. Maybe every MoveOn member is now going to have to equip themselves with the words of Jones' attorneys, in their letter to Fox News, on this matter:
Mr. Jones is not a member of any Communist Party or Marxist organization whatsoever, and has not expressed any support for any form of Communist or Marxist ideology for many years. In the same 2005 article in which he Mr. Jones discussed having had such notions as a young man, he also talked about his growth away from those views.
Mr. Jones has repeatedly clarified that his economic views are firmly pro-market, in numerous speeches, televised interviews and in the Huffington Post. In fact, Mr. Jones is known as a leading champion of free-market solutions to current environmental problems. His best-selling book, The Green Collar Economy (2009), advocates government policies to promote private-sector innovation. The World Economic Forum itself has repeatedly honored Mr. Jones' work. He has been called the "Green" Jack Kemp, because he shares that GOP leader's commitment to entrepreneurship as a cure for poverty.
The allegations that Mr. Jones is an "unrepentant Communist," "is a Communist," "is a Communist guy," and "is a revolutionary" are thus demonstrably and unequivocally false. Clearly these statements were calculated to, and do, injure Mr. Jones in his professional and community standing and lower him in the estimation of the American public. They are actionable as a matter of law.
Liberal organizers have taken for granted far too long the toxic effects of these kinds of lies and smears -- because they are exactly the kinds of smears that have always provided the bedrock of right-wing extremism and xenophobic scapegoating. And it's especially remarkable that we're seeing it happen with so many supposedly "conservative" mainstream and often elderly people lapping up the lies.
This was clear from the report on the confrontation:
Roseburg resident Lillen Fifield, 70, called the group's actions an “act of domestic terrorism” and said she was appalled that a peaceful gathering — mostly of women older than 65 — was interrupted.
“It is not OK to go around and intimidate and threaten people. That is not acceptable in a polite society,” Fifield said.
Conservative organizers defended their actions and said they will continue to protest similar gatherings.
“We were there to find out what they had to say and to bring a notice to the public that this kind of thing was going on. Quite honestly, if they have it again, then we are really going to make it well known,” Raynor said.
Raynor said the group believes MoveOn.org is a communist front and said he would not stand for America becoming a fascist nation.
It's unsurprising that these Tea Partiers thus replicate Jonah Goldberg's fraudulent scrambling of the meanings of "fascism" and "communism", something that was avidly promoted on Fox by Beck and others as well.
Likewise, it's unsurprising that this obliteration-of-meaning-by-Newspeak would result in thuggish behavior remarkably like that deployed by brownshirts historically. The only strange thing was that it involved a bunch of senior citizens and middle-aged folks. It was obvious, for instance, that these people were hoping to provoke an angry response resulting in violence that they could then trot out as proof of liberal "thuggishness." (That's an old brownshirt tactic.)
Fortunately, this particular gathering of progressives was smart enough to avoid that trap. As we see more of these attempts to provoke violence, though, I'm not so sure that's going to continue happening.
It's all very disturbing. As Carla puts it:
Clearly the fine details of what took place are in dispute. What isn't, however, are the overt attempts at intimidation and bullying perpetuated by Raynor and the others that showed up to shut down a tiny, peaceful group who chose to meet to talk. Last I checked, that's still allowed in the US. And while MoveOn is decidedly NOT communist, socialist or Marxist--it shouldn't matter if they are. People in the United States are allowed to discuss and promote those ideas if that's what they really believe.
Why are Raynor and his ilk so desperately frightened? Are their own ideas and beliefs so weak that they can't stand up to a miniscule group even having an opposition discussion about them?
Nevermind McCarthyism - this is one curb-stomp removed from straight-up Brown Shirt tactics.
As for Mr. Raynor - of course he wouldn't "stand" for a fascist takeover of the US; awfully embarrassing to stand up with a hard-on. I'm sure he'd settle for enthusiastic applause...
...crowd wouldn't stand for a facist takeover either? Yeah, all of them.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
They want a "free" America....except for the right to freely congregate (which only applies to people they don't like).
Yeah, that makes sense.
...they were airing a show on the rise of the nazi party in Germany. I was surprised at how much of the tea party playbook was used by the germans...or is it the other way around? I was confused.
Think I'm kidding or being sarcastic? Watch the movie and then comment.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
"Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist."
I'm sure you know who the "they" is.
I was listening to the Discovery channel in the background while I worked. But I had to stop and watch, stunned. The early Socialist party in pre-war Germany completely reminded me of the rabid furor (pun intended) of today's teabaggers. Full of self-loathing and human shadow, desperately looking for a scapegoat.
Only Thing Missing was the brown Shirts and black boots.
I love the stupidity of these old retired codgers carrying signs sayin';
"US Government get your hands off my medicare and social security"
Call it what it is - the same tactics the Brown Shirts used in Munich in the 1920's.
Absolutely. That's not hyperbole either Navy. Not wearing a uniform doesn't change who they really are.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
A few of those assholes had camouflage fatigues on - I'd say that's close enough to a uniform.
I would not have remained peaceful had these asshole morons approached me..
Let's go one step further with a term I coined back in 2000: Theocratic Fascism.
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Hick fascists.
What I find really sad is that a lot of these people are probably of the WWII generation (or at least of the younger siblings of that generation) and have all become the very thing they once fought against.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
What's truly pathetic is these knobs don't realize that's actually the motto of their Wall Street puppet masters.
...constitutional things, um, "rights" I think they're called, that the teabuggers love so much.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
...and complained about the denial of free speech.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
When these yahoos pull this sort of crap, they should be called on it. A little jail time for these jerks might help them understand what America really stands for and how they are subverting it.
...has to stop being the law of the land.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
With apologies to Jackson Browne:
Where if you feel too free and you need something to remind you
There's this loneliness springing up from your lifeLike a fountain from a poolThere's this place called JAIL where eating baloney sandwiches
Reminds you you musta been acting like a fool...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
The cops didn't respond for an hour and a half because they were "busy". Sounds to me like the police wouldn't have been much help. Probably teabaggers themselves.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Seriously why are liberals putting up with this shit?
...but I refuse to be intimidated by thugs of any kind and if the other side thinks they can shout me down...they don't know me very well.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
theres millions of us......they are not tea party fucks,they are LIBERTARIANS,how fucking hard is it to call them what they are? pretty hard,seems like. ayn ran cock suckers.
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
Because if you look closely at the video, it's mostly all blue haired old ladies and geezers. Fecking bullies.
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what is worse, ignorance or indifference?
I don't know and I don't care!
...are ........ and potential criminals. They should ALL be incarcerated.
right? You wouldn't like it if they said that about you, now would you?
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
I wouldn't give a damn about what they said about me, sparky.
You're a "concern" troll, aren't you?
about one thing. Republicans and Tea Party members lie about who they are and what they do all the time. I've found some even masquerading as Democrats and liberals calling for violence against their own party.
Why, even you could be one of them yourself. Especially since you became a member just recently and are calling for violence already.
Makes everyone wonder. I think i should play it safe and report you just in case.
I'm sure you will understand that I only have the best intentions at heart.
I live a little north of Roseburg and a little south of Eugene. The difference is night and day. There are definitely a lot of banjos playing down in Roseburg. They still have all their "Vote for Art Robinson" signs up. They are not going to take them down until he either dies or defeats Rep. DeFazio. They have no clue how much they and that part of Oregon benefit from DeFazio's representation.
"Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened." Dr. Seuss
Not very deep thinkers, these TeaBagger idiots. I work under one, and for the life of me I don't understand her thinking, because she is an RN and has genuine concern for people. But as I have said, the GOP/TeaBaggers vote their hate. They can't be constructive, or think expansively, so they vote against what they think they don't like, people on welfare, living high on unemployment, etc.
Many years ago I was at a meeting of a trade group that had to do with industry and finishing (painting) and the speaker was railing against the government for trying to force companies to clean up their pollution. He was outraged and didn't hide it. I should have said it out loud, but I turned to one of my associates and said "I guess he missed the toilet training part early in life". Because that is what polluters are, people without a concept of toilet training--that you put your shit in the appropriate place.
I am trying like hell to get out of the country soon, as soon as my elderly parents die, I am gone. The education of the coming generations is atrocious. They can't spell and they can't count. I am forever telling clerks in stores how to make the proper change. It seems that the only thing about math they know is how much the next tatoo or piercing will cost. At the YMCA I see so many young kids who are obese, really shockingly fat. The ignorance of our country is why it is rapidly going from second world to third world status. Unfortunately, it is the greedy clowns, Dem and Rethug, in DC who are driving us down. The truly good ones are a small handfull, if that. It is embarassing to be an American nowadays.
Defazio`s (D-OR)
also if anyone remembers the interview Rachel Maddow had with Art Robinson?
if you have then you can come to a understanding of the mentality of these jerk wads.
I think the fact that the original poster of the video AFPDouglas has disabled all comments and ratings for his video, shows that he has about as much backbone and character is it took to intimidate a small peaceful gathering.
They are just itching for the chance to beat down gays, hispanics , intellectuals, and anyone else who is not a middle aged dimwitted bigoted Christian man..
They might be surprised to find that we will fight back.
What gets me about these right wingers who accuse the left of being Marxist- I have yet to encounter any righties who knew anything about Karl Marx.
Now that this is out there, just wait for the one-ups-manship to escalate it. I wonder if the media will even cover it?
They want a civil war and they have set things in motion to get one.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
I have the feeling those right-wing thugs may just get a civil war - maybe even a revolution, if they're not careful.
That's because they are still mad that their side lost the first one.
A second one however would end with the same results as the first one.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
Karl Marx, from Wiki
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
They've been convinced and taught from birth that such words as "Marxism," "Socialism," "Anarchism" are eeeevil... can't tell you a bit about any of 'em, let alone any divisions of philosophy within any of them... hell, they're hard-pressed to know the difference between the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation or any of our other founding documents... they just know they're gooooood, having been passed down complete, unaltered and unalterable by the Founding Fathers on High.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
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Ignorance is bliss.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
My partner and I stopped in a diner there on our way to CA from Portland. We asked the server what they had for vegetables. His answer: "Cottage cheese?" Oh yes, Roseburg, where cottage cheese is a vegetable!
Janek
At least you weren't offered ketchup.
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is the additive that makes cottage cheese a vegetable.
-trust me
Sorry to sound like a tough-guy gun nut on this one, but this situation would have ended as soon as they hit my driveway. This is unacceptable.
That clicking sound is me pumping the action of my shotgun as I point it at a tea-bagger's windshield and give them all of 10 seconds to leave my property.
You want to physically threaten me? There will be consequences.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
That would qualify as a 2nd Amendment solution, wouldn't it? Of course, they would scream bloody murder that we would invoke our rights.
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I'm telling you man - I would have taken their mere approach as a physical threat and gladly thrown the first punch.
I prefer fists and feet. Makes the message last longer. All I need is one of those teatards to start something.
NOBODY 2012
File a lawsuit immediately for violation of civil rights, namely freedom of assembly. Probably won't do anything but it's what should happen.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
File a RICO action, as there were at least 3 people in the "tea party" group.
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whistle blowers and medical marijuana users, they might have the time and resources to tackle something they should be doing.
These fucking morons are nothing more than pathetic useful idiots for a cause that will ultimately bring ruination to the nation and themselves. These jackasses are the equivalent of Ernst Rohm, one of Hitler's henchmen. Gee, I wonder what happened to him after he did so much for good 'ol Adolf?
The Night of the Long Knives. Remember, the SA (Brownshirts) was a threat to Hitler's plans as the German Army & Industrialists didn't like Rohm or the SA. The Night of the Long Knives also marked the ascendancy of the Himmler and the SS.
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Next, the baggers will come armed. Then we'll have to arm ourselves. It'll be just like the old battles in the streets of Berlin in the 20's between Communists and Nazi's!
Ahhh...good times.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
Typical right-wing cowards.
1. Not only are they clueless about democracy or this country...
2. Not only do they mistakenly think President Obama is communist and/or liberal (both laughable assumptions)...
3. but they also seem to assume that liberal and/or progressive equates with passive or push-overs (probably related to #2 somehow)...
...don't mind me, just adding to the list of Tea Party ignorance.
I shake my head when right wingers claim pres Obama is on the extreme left wing radical.
He is obviously a moderate that has slid to the right. He's more of a right winger than Reagan or Nixon.
Obama is no FDR
And that's the bottom line. Facts completely and empirically bear out what you've said. But don't confuse a teabagger with facts. If it doesn't come in the form of a slogan from one of their cult leaders, it will be lost on them.
Agree 100 percent!
NOBODY 2012
Hence their hatred of Pres obama, and of anyone else with skin that is not white...
They want guns on the borders to mow down Hispanics with machine gun fire, and they want Hispanics segregated into ghettos...
The right wing fascists cling to an utterly perverted form of Christianity that is not about feeding the hungry and helping the poor- but is about despising the poor and turning their back on the hungry. Jesus would be disgusted by his 'followers'.
I hate these right wingers- They are fascists to the core, and they are unAmewrican.
They would murder me given the chance- I am gay, and an atheist. To quote FDR, I welcome their hatred.
Tom, I wholeheartedly agree.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
"an utterly perverted form of Christianity" is redundant. Christianity is perverted. Period. I am an atheist also. And in my mind the problems is not that these tea party adherants aren't fascists, they are authoritarians.
They are the authoritarians who are followers, yes, but authoritarians nonetheless. To me that is one of the biggest issues with these people; besides, being racists, bigots, willfully ignorant and uninformed, fearful of anyone not exactly like them, deluded and anti-American tools.
They won't be so arduous about their tea party 'values' once the Oligarchs have won and no longer have a use for them. Fools.
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
That mangled sentence:
"And in my mind the problems is not that these tea party adherants aren't fascists, they are authoritarians."
should be:
And in my mind the problem is not that these tea party adherants are fascists, they are authoritarians.
The fingers don't always correctly type what's in this old brain.
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
which include illegal double parking outside the dry cleaners and owing the library several dollars for many months for an overdue book.
Let the punishment fit the crime! Theism is insanity.
These ignorant mouth breathers never cease to amaze me. They don't go after those in power that are going to have them living in refrigerator boxes and eating cat food. No, they expend all of their limited brain power fighting the "Marxists" that actually want to prevent that from happening.
Well, when the unregulated hand of capitalism slaps them down and they're scouting out dumpsters for food and shelter, let's see how anti-socialism they are (Okay, that was a little overly dramatic, but you get the point).
Teabaggers tend to quote their hero Glenn Beck word for word, calling Pres Obama a 'Communist, fascist, Socialist, Marxist, Maoist anarchist'; without knowing what ANY of those words mean, and thinking they all mean the same thing. If challenged to define *any* of those words, their first impusle is to issue a profanity strewn threat of physical violence.
The depths of Teabagger ignorance and stupidity never ceases to amaze me...
The intelligence of the average teabagger makes Forrest gump look like Issac Asimov
Another point I meant to make. I wonder if most of them can even work the interwebs machine well enough to track down the Wikipedia versions of all of these "-isms" they throw around.
Quite frankly, I doubt they even care to educate themselves. It seems whatever some rich guy that will never have same problems they do says on Fox is good enough.
In their addled minds (pre-Alzheimers?) Communist, fascist, Socialist, Marxist, Maoist anarchist'= Bad and Free-market capitalism = Good. Ugh, me tired! Ugh, me hungry. Ugh, me no like other skin color. Ugh, me not like non-krishtians. Ugh, me want kill hippies. Ugh...
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
It wasn't overly dramatic - it was spot on, accurate, honest and necessary - and dummies need to hear more of it. Unfortunately this place consists of smart people who are already aware of what the end game is if this country does things the teabagger way.
These people shouldn't have passively dispersed - they should have ridiculed and educated them when they invaded their space.
...its my constitution and you don't get a chance to speak.
hypocrites and a-holes, all of them.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Definitely not McCarthyism, goon squads unopposed will only grow and grow, ratcheting up the level of violence.
Wake up and expose who is really funding and pulling the strings of these puppets!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Ep2kxCIj4
Both groups in this altercation seemed to be Baby boomers...50 to 60 somethings who never quite finished the 60s warfare. Hippies and antiwar kids were a minority then..against what became the moral majority in the 70s and 80s.... They, now tea partiers, are angry they never won the battle against loose lifestyles, peace, vegetables and "dirty hippies", and they are now energized to really fight it all out...listen to them....and then look at who attended the peace marches during the bush years..all 50s and 60s somethings also....I only hope the younger folks, who seem progressive by nature, tolerant and reasonable overall, start having more of a voice. As the minority hippy contingent myself( maybe 5% of boomers, really), I am sick of my whole boomer generation...take over, and shut down this silly culture war....please!
I hate to say it, but when the boomers are all gone, this country may have a chance at moving on. Making the 2004 election about Vietnam told us that fight is still going on. It's still 1968 to these people.
Enough is enough. They'll all be dead in 30 years but my generation will be paying for the cleanup from their mid to late life teabagger tantrums.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
...site that would disagree. Chances are if the teabuggers prevail, YES, your generation will be paying for the right's fiscal discipline. Imagine where we would be if they would've trimmed the clinton tax increases to a moderate tax cut and used the surplus to shore up social security. That would've taken common sense and a desire to see the country survive as an economic power not a haven for wealthy fat-cats who took the money and ran.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
...appoint w as president, didn't illegally invade iraq, etc.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
We always have to clean up after the previous generation. Just look at the boomers, they had to clean up after a world war that killed 30 million. Your cleanup will be nothing compared to that!
and it had been "cleaned up," in this country at least, by the time the baby boomers came of age.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
and blaming tactics [fomented by the Rove gang, promulgated by the corporate whores of media,] on a group of people based merely on their DOB.
I believe "I hate to say it" is not the truth on your part, since you went ahead and did so. Why do you start a post why a lie?
me-oww!
I think what I was trying to point out, as a boomer myself, is that that my generation ( '46 to '62?) was always very conservative, from the anti hippy, pro Nixon Moral majority through Morning in America Reagan to bring down Clintons and into W....It was always only a small percentage that was antiwar, environmentalist, feminist, and justice seeking. We were and have been despised all along by the majority of Boomers, and, since it is such a large demographic, this casts a large shadow over the republic, mostly for the worst. SO, I for one can't wait until we are overshadowed by the younger more progressive generations.....the Tea Partiers, boomers mostly all, are the last gasp of a mostly very reactionary generation, I hope....
I saw yours after that, but this happens, the "fuck the boomers" crap, usually from younger little selfish shits. As someone who has slogged through all this shit, always fighting the bullshit, I get pissed off being lumped in with the assholes I've fought nearly my entire life.
Some are older than Boomers, some are younger than boomers, and most boomers aren't these fuckers.
me-oww!
Perhaps I should have been more clear: Conservative Boomers. And I didn't start the post either. Nor did I lie, because I didn't mean every boomer. Perhaps noticing my mention of teabaggers could have helped.
Now retract the claws Kitty.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
Thanks for clarifying. I'm sure my blood pressure would be better if ppl would put the word 'conservative' in front of 'boomers.' I've seen quite a few on the board who actually stupidly meant every last one of us.
me-oww!
Yep. That's all I'm saying. It would be nice to deal with today's conflicts instead of the ones from the 1960's. My generation isn't the one freaking out over a black man in the white house.
Not saying all boomers are like that, but the average age of teabaggers I see isn't lost on me.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
and thanks.yak-yaks post pissed me off,i didn't quite know how to respond...you did http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l5uX1Ee0cMell.
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l5uX1Ee0cM
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
So you're a teabagger?
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
libertarian?........couldn't be further from the truth. not me.
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
you may as well jump off with us.
Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
They'll all be dead in 30 years but my generation will be paying for the cleanup from their mid to late life teabagger tantrums.
Why wait for us to be dead? What r u doing right now to "clean up the mess"? Have you organized any groups or are you just typing on blogs?
signed, a hippie type
far left loon >.<
Your assumptions aside, plenty. Active Member:
ACLU
Not In Our Name
MoveOn.org
I don't just donate either.
Signed, another hippie type, just 2 decades younger.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
I see NOW you didn't mean all boomers. I hate greedy fuckers. Peace..
far left loon >.<
No doubt these brown-shirted jackboots think we'll be as easily intimidated by violent threats as themselves.
it will be wrapped in the flag and waving a crucifix.
Oh, this is gonna be "fun"
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.” - Sinclair Lewis,
"It Can't Happen Here" written in either 1935 or 1936, I think. It's illuminating. You can read it for free here:
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0301001h.html
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
very much for posting this link.
:)
Beer-i.e., God's Sweet Nectar- is a magic drink that makes you smarter, stronger, and more sexy.
-S. Colbert
always meant to get some gutenberg stuffs, (SOCIALISTS! free books!) have grabbed this one for reading later - thankyou for posting! /pleased tis the au branch also :D a local link for a change :P
The ignorant, Faux Noise watching teabaggers will be gone very soon from Congress. These morons are just poisoning the intelligent gene pool.
After this is there any doubt in you mind about what will happen if the future? Is there any doubt that there is going to be a revolt against these right wing extremists that the Republican Party have created and let run wild?
They've driven out all the moderates- I'm just waiting for the day when the Republican party changes their party name to the Christian Republican party. That day is coming, and they will alienate most sane Americans. I'd sooner die than convert to their vile religious cult.
...sharia law no good, ixtian biblical law okay as long as you don't have to follow it too closely when you're a teabugger.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
It's OK if you're a tea bagger.
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
I've always found right-wingers to be particularly revolting.
A country of laws. What a fucking joke.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
The rest of the US will look like Detroit within 25 years (no industry, mass poverty).
Ive had it with this country
are fighting for the kids,grandkids,and those not yet born....at times i feel like the viet cong probably felt,gotta fight,even if you die,got nowhere to go.
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
They also must feel they are on the losing end of public opinion to have to resort to thuggery and violence.
I hope they are jailed.
MyMy
I agree these stupid teabaggers are just too uneducated to see that they are puppets for the super rich, when most look like they are living on the streets.
nailed it perfectly.
Tea Party = ignorant or malicious reactionary traitors
alice had tea parties,libertarians worship ayn rand.
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
Dude, they're called the Tea Party and we like to call them teabaggers.
DEAL WITH IT ALREADY.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
They pull the stunt again and threaten and you are in reasonable apprehension of harm ... shoot them.
really is not the answer.
Please.
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
not aggression.a gun is nothing more than a tool.
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
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What would have happened if these fine people would have been run over? And what is going to happen to these Teabaggers now? Are they going to be held accountable?
... then call me a communist. It really fails as insults go nowadays.
Besides, who's the ones not respecting private property? Eh, calling out hypocrisy on these folks doesn't work, it's like telling a fish that it's wet.
No, not being a Teabagger is... not being a Teabagger. It does not mean your are communist or socialist or any ist. You are just not a Teabagger. Don't fall into their trap.
Aside from the whole thing being a 50's throwback, it's like they're relying on the charge to galvanize the one so accused to decry being such a vile, evil thing as a communist and to assert their love and loyalty to capitalism and American exceptionalism and so on.
Well there's no love here, so I'm not sure what they expect when they level the charge. I'm still no communist, that much is true, but I have become a died-in-the-wool socialist these days, and frankly I'm tired of these screeching chimpanzees throwing around shibboleths as a verbal substitute for poo. They want to call me a communist? Fine.
All these tea-baggers yearn for the time of their youth when Mom wore skirts and kept the perfect house when Dad was the Man of the house and ruled like a dictator,and coloreds' lived on the bad side of town. The longing for the 1950's has really caught on with the baggers especially McCarthyism and religious conformity...
A small mind is easier to lose...
Those with the tea party mentality seem to long for an imaginary Ozzie and Harriet life. That show wasn't true then and it isn't true now. Maybe they're all pissed that they never got to live that fantasy world life, like Leave it to Beaver or Father Knows Best or whatever. Sheesh. How pathetic.
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
Maybe they're all pissed that they never got to live that fantasy world life, like Leave it to Beaver or Father Knows Best or whatever.
Whatever would be Gunsmoke....where morality is viewed through a binary prism and enforced with a gun.
Beer-i.e., God's Sweet Nectar- is a magic drink that makes you smarter, stronger, and more sexy.
-S. Colbert
of say, 20 minutes ago..
I am a humanist except on these thankfully rare occasions where I may turn to psychopath if so accosted.
The brave "tea-tards"; holding their Amurkkkan Flag and threatening the elderly. How photo-finished!
Although normally non-confrontational, when my freedom is threatened by a bunch of willfully ignorant a-hole teabaggers, I will fight back. Given that in this case, the victims were a bunch of blue-haired old ladies, the 'baggers must be very proud of themselves. Assuming there is cell service in that park, someone should have called 911. I believe that freedom of assembly is still constitutionally guaranteed in the U.S.A... Of course, I wouldn't expect any teabagger to have any actual understanding of the constitution past what they've been told by Beck, Limpbaugh, Bachmann and Palin.
Given that in this case, the teabaggers were holding a demonstration (I am assuming without a permit), they should have rightfully been shut down by law enforcement.
In Teabagistan, the only parts of the Constitution that they recognize are the second amendment, the tenth amendment, and that part about God being the only god, and having no other gods before him.
This is what Rick Santelli gave us. this is what he was looking for back when he went into his rant on the floor of the Chicago futures market.
Lest anyone has forgotten, Santelli was ranting in front of a bunch stock traders and banksters who had already gotten their government bailout against the federal government helping the people he called "losers", also known as working Americans.
On CNBC... THE financial news channel.
I want to know if these teabaggers are carring guns because that is when it is going to get real bad.
I've been a member of Tea Party Nation for a couple of months now. I can tell you they own Joe McCarthy with pride. Many members refer to him by name and desperately urge America to bring back his hearings.
Have you infiltrated the TPN? Awesome. Please report back often! Thanks.
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
I am so fucking sick of seeing progressives pushed around by hateful thugs who believe the bullshit produced by the Right-Wing Nose/Lie machine. I am utterly sick of pussy centrists who enable these brownshirts by refusing to admit that these people don't see compassion, reasonableness, a willingness to discuss differences, empathy and a sense of community as weaknesses to be despised & exploited instead of strengths to be exercised & admired.
This is bullying committed by bullies. "Ye shall know them by their fruits." There is only one way to deal with bullies. Fight back. They give you a push you give them a shove. They get in your face, you get in their face & in their groin. You hurt them. You shoot back. You hurt them more than they hurt you. You make them so scared of what the possible consequences are of coming after you that they run when they see you coming. You put the fear of God into them that they lie awake at night worried that their actions will cause you to take an interest in them, because they know that once you take an interest in them, they're done.
but I looked at the likes and dislikes on youtube. Yesterday there was 1100 dislikes and 17 likes. Guess the teabag fascism isn't as popular as they like to pretend.
That's how you know a real grassroots movement, when they don't want any feedback at all.
Now they have removed the video completely as far as I can tell.
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Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
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"Mr. Jones is not a member of any Communist Party or Marxist organization whatsoever, and has not expressed any support for any form of Communist or Marxist ideology for many years. In the same 2005 article in which he Mr. Jones discussed having had such notions as a young man, he also talked about his growth away from those views. "
"Mr. Jones has repeatedly clarified that his economic views are firmly pro-market, "
how sickening, another suck-up to wall street, just like his daddy. and yes, by the way, the teabag crowd is just a step away from the brown shirts. i truly don't know who is more sickening, the teabaggers or van jones. oh, excuse me, did i just step on one of your liberal icons?
with grey hair. Most of them are too old and physically aged to be a real threat physically anyway. They'd probably shit their Depends if they ever saw any real physical retaliation to their provocative, intimidating actions that just beg violence.
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
some are armed,and itching to pull the trigger.
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
"this is was Communists would do"... Interesting...
Now how would HE know this...?
Dear Oregon Tea Party,
Come to Texas and try this... PLEASE! Especially the part where you trespass on my property.
-Ax
These are the people your President is negotiating with.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
It looks like at least probable cause to mount a RICO investigation - if only the Department of Justice had some cojones.
"In theory theory and practice are alike. In practice they are very different."
time to break out the aluminum baseball bats and kneecap some of these yahoos.
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what is worse, ignorance or indifference?
I don't know and I don't care!
if only the Department of Justice had some cojones.
Hmmm....questioning the integrity of the Justice Department. Sounds like Commie seditious talk.
You're under investigation.
How you like those cojones.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Thinking about filing criminal charges? Really? I'd have had the cops on their asses THAT VERY DAY. What these people did is intimidation if not assault. Certainly they have no right to confront people in a public park and force them out.
What a bunch of cowardly, ignorant, hateful bullies these teabaggers are. Their mothers are surely weeping in their graves.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
The Tea Baggers Conservatives suffer from narcissistic personality disorder which is most prominent after the age of 40.
They have illusionary thinking, they lack real empathy, and they have delusions of grander .. they are sensitive to criticism, exhibit attention seeking behavior, and show a disregard for others while displaying an inflated self opinion.
They react to criticism with rage, shame, or humiliation and take advantage of other people to achieve his or her own goals; They have feelings of self-importance; Exaggerates achievements and talents; are preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, specialness.
Many of these tea baggers need medication but the disorder itself is a hindrance because they think it is others with the problem ... not them.
I know all about narcissists. I have encountered many in my life.
far left loon >.<
"The Tea Partiers kept repeating "Van Jones!" "Van Jones!" almost mantra-like, and then calling MoveOn a bunch of "communists.""
This shows anybody willing to look how Pavlovian brainwashed, knee jerk reactionaries they have been trained to become.
"If you want more, get up earlier and work harder. It works wonders for your self-respect"
At one time maybe. How many people think if you really work hard you are assured of success? How many of you are working really hard already?
How many think if you give a super wealthy person a tax cut he will turn around give it to you through a job?
Really, who believes all this anymore? Are they living in the real world?
Sadly they are nearly the only ones that don't see it. They embarrass me for the US.
Many people spent thier entire lifetime working/laboring hard.....and in the end all they did is spend a lifetime working/laboring hard....where people get this notion that hard work/hard labor will translate into personal financial success is beyond me....the reward for a lifetime of working/laboring hard for many people translated into financial success for the master and an early grave for the servant, some reward huh?
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Beer-i.e., God's Sweet Nectar- is a magic drink that makes you smarter, stronger, and more sexy.
-S. Colbert
Now get the hell out of this park and shut the fuck up. Agree with us or we'll kick your ass.
ironic that the bloke at the end is yapping about 'we want a free America!' when the constitution itself i believe already enshrines freedom of association among others - i.e. a meetup such as MoveOn was participating in here. so much for a 'free' America when you are free to intimidate..... not coincidentally something they accuse ACORN and the alleged new Black Panthers of, among others.
out and out harrassment in my books. hypocrisy as well. and to behave like that to a bunch of 65yo ladies? im glad they walked off and didnt start anything but even if theyd tried i dont reckon theyd have had much ability to be 'thuggish'. and to post the vid as braggart proof ..... low. tho i guess one has to be thankful for it as it exposes just exactly the kind of people they are. wonder how they knew about the Moveon gig, anyway.
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